Badong: uy sali ako diyan... I read about this issue here and I dont see anything wrong with that....ONLY... if they conducted a public hearing on this issue... only if they could have explained better where is this for...and why did they didnt consult the
Badong: workers first and convinced them that this is really needed
Badong: the Mayor said this is for "peace and order" .. I think that's bull...., Why? dont they have enough police force? What exactly does he mean of "peace and order ' pusposes? will that annual fee goes to PNP? I dont think so.. Will that a
Badong: use to pay barangay tanod? I dont think so.. well I think Subic workers and locals should look into this.. guys lets be vigilant ... mukhang marami pang ipagpapaliwanag si Mayor
Badong: My advise to the Mayor of Subic... be transparent.. all transactions...contracts.... Municipal Ordinance etc.. should be supported by facts and the public has the right to know
Badong: public hearing is important.. wag naman sanang moro-moro.. na yung padadaluhin niyo eh mga alipores niyo lang
Badong: pag may nagrereklamo tungkol sa panukala niyo.. ibig sabihin hindi plantsado bago ito inaprubahan... hindi nakunsulta ang lahat ng sektor.. kulang sa plano at mga datos.. tapos magalit ka pag sinilip ito..
Badong: Mayor.. marami na bumabatikos sa iyo.. I think its about time to clean up your act..
Katutubo: Susmio!! yun na lang mga substandard na ginamit sa sitio agusuhin eh galing lahat yan kay meyor gungung este khonghun.. tapos yun 300 pesos na aawasin pa sa mga kawawang worker ng hanjin for peace and order ? bakit nasa loob ba ng muntilupa prison?
Katutubo: yan hanjin ?
Katutubo: alam mo yan style na yan style eskwela lang yan ginagawa ika nga miscellaneous fee kuno pero sa bulsa nila pupunta yan ..katagal ko na sa Subic ala akong nakitang pag asenso dyan noh !!
Katutubo: eh yun tax na ibinabayad ng hanjin sa municipal ng subic eh napakalaki na nyan .. tapos pati mga worker eh kukuhanan pa !!! aba maawa na kayo sa mga yan.. lalo at mahal na ang bilihin ngayon ... meyor ng subic hindi po banko ang mga manggagawa
Badong: well.. palagay ko di palalgpasin ni mr. Lacbain yan
Badong: Suportahan na lang nyo si mr Lacbain na ungkatin lahat yan
Katutubo: peace and order kamo meyor gungung este khunghon ..bat ngayon mo lang naisip yan.. ibig mo bang sabihin eh 24 hours na magpapatrulya ang mga baranggay tanod mo o kapulisan para sa peace and order..? eh paano mangyayari magulo yan eh ang mga tao
Katutubo: sa hanjin eh 8 hours sa loob ng shipyard ..di na nila makuhang mag good time yan sa kapaguran .. mas gugustuhin pa nila ang matulog kesa tumambay pa
Badong: o kaya mag organisa kayo ng isang Cocerned Citizen's group na sisilip sa lahat ng gawain ni meyo kunghun,, at ipasa lahat ang impormasyon sa media
Badong: that I think is the best move here... expose niyo lahat ang anomalya at iparating sa national media.. wag lang sa lokal na dyarita o lokal na radio station
Badong: i mean diyarista
Katutubo: isipin mo na lang ang ipinunta ng mga worker sa hanjin eh hanapbuhay at hindi gulo o away.. meyor gunggung este khunghon.. ikaw ang nagpapasama ng imahe ng mga mababait na tao sa Subic... sus kakahiya kang meyor ka..idinadamay mo ang mga mamayan .
Katutubo: "mamamayan ng subic"
Badong: but dont forget to get all the facts.. wag lang yung hakahaka.. solid evidence ika nga
Badong: wala kayong magagawa kahit murahin niyo yan.. makapal na talaga mikha ng isang kurap na opisyal.. di na nahihiya yan kaya aksyon ang kailangan
RamonAbello: alm nyo sa "5" ng criminal justice "2" lng ang punta "community or correction". meaning "misdeamenor" lng ang kaso so syang lng ang "pera" sa imbestigtion. 4good ng community 4sure ako mura na namn ak
RamonAbello: waste of time "misdemeanor" multa lang "no" jail time. "sayang pera natin db" pogi points lng yan.!
RamonAbello: research "criminal justice system" okey mga brod..syokoy, katutubo, badong, kano atb miss u all!
Siyokoy: Alam mo mr Abello, wala kaming naiintindihan sa mga pinagsasabi mo... puro ka research.. bakit di ikaw ang magresearch para madagdagan naman ang laman ng utak mo hahahah
Siyokoy: Ayaw ko na sanang patulan ka pero nabibitin ang magandang usapan dito eh..
RamonAbello: wala talga ako makita case na criminal "environment law" wla rin syokoy, 10k php! meron bka my proposal ka
RamonAbello: u will not understand anything unless magresearch ka muna bago ka magsalita.
RamonAbello: ska "local" ang dapat magsampa ng case. No criminal intention "misdemeanor" ang labas. magbasa ka ng syokoy lasing kna nman ba?
RamonAbello: u know trial by media? pagdating sa RTC pag nanalo yan appeal ulit, e kung talo! sayang pera
Siyokoy: Tungkol saan ba yang sinasabi mo? Anong kaso? Kaninong kaso? sino kakasuhan? Pakidetalye mo nga.. mahina ang pik ap ko ngayon eh
RamonAbello: khit pagsamahin mo ang lahat ng "environmental law" 2M lng multa unless, "ancestral law" 130M yun.
Siyokoy: Paano kami makakapag react niyan eh kulang ang detalye
RamonAbello: Syokoy, SBMA ang mention ko, wla lasing kna ulit, zzzz na ako! love u na lng
Siyokoy: bakit di ka kumunsukta sa isang abugado.. abugado ka ba? kung hindi eh di mo nga makikita ang hinahanap mo
Siyokoy: Tumakbo na.. hoy bumalik ka dito at ipaliwanag mo sa akin ng mahusay yan..
sailorjohn: I am happy to see the continued investment in the old Subic Naval bases. But was it so surprising to many that there is so much "under the table" payoffs? This has been going on for WHO knows how long. I had to do it when I got married 3
sailorjohn: to speed up the process when I got married. This goes on daily in EVERY aspect of living in the Philippines or doing business in the PI. NO ONE will ever stop it and those that want to invest in PI need to understand that. Same goes
sailorjohn: for those that desire to make the move and retire in PI. NOTHING gets done unless YOU pay for it. SAD SAD SAD. The PEOPLE need to put a stop to this practice, the Gov't will NEVER stop it has they ALL have their hands in the pot.
sailorjohn: coorection. married 33 yrs ago.
sailorjohn: I am wondering if anyone can tell me here how many Ret. Americans are working on the old bases? How hard is it to find work there?
Siyokoy: sailorjohn why dont you applu dirext to aan american company who invested in SBMA, they might help you get hired.. as the stats of retirees working in sbma? SBMA doesnt keep stats.. i dont know why. And dont ask them if they will hire you.. they wont
Siyokoy: but you can get a list of investors.. check wich one is american investors/company and apply directly to them
Siyokoy: I assure you american managers doesnt discriminate older applicants
Siyokoy: and i am sorry to hear about your experience here when youre trying to speed up the paper push.. you dont have to pay or bribe them.. its only being tolerated because you allow them to.
Siyokoy: I advise everyone to bring a small digital recorder that you can put inside your shirt pocket when negotiating with govt employees.. this way you can get the details of transaction and evidence in case they ask for money in return for services
Siyokoy: This is a small digital voice recorder a little bit bigger than a cellphone and it will came in handy when this kind of situation arises, it can record up to 72 hrs..
RamonAbello: 1000 hectares lang ang pwedeng pag-aari ng dayuhan! syokoy pinabilib mo n naman ako sa english m! Sec. kn lng nmin? wat do uthink? galing mo!! takbo na ulit ako.
RamonAbello: point k! "1k hectares" na nga lng my "kotong" pa!.bigyan nman ng law protection nman natin ang investors, pwede po ba mga brods dont harrass them!
RamonAbello: tanong nga sa akin "pulis, abogado or addict b ako? ans k "NO"ako po ay isang mahirap n mamamayan na marunong magbasa at umintindi ng kahirapan
RamonAbello: hubog po ako ng "matitinong tao" sa lipunan. danas ko ang maging mahirap kya alam ko yan! teka emote na "HI" everyone! Syokoy miss u n!
sailorjohn: Siyokoy Do you work in SBMA ? I will see if I can find any AMerican companies that have business in Subic. FedEx is departing soon and that is the only one I am aware of. My concerns with under the table situations was in 1976.
sailorjohn: It is worse now from what I have been told. Sad. I'll be making the move to PI in a few years, sooner if the market to sell my home gets better.
siyokoy: Im not connecyed with SBMA in any way. SBMA is highly politicized entity and if you dont have these connections you'll unlikely to get noticed her
siyokoy: connected* , here*.
siyokoy: Chekc the links that say Investors?locators in this site and there's a lot of american companies like Cargill, Delta, to name a few
siyokoy: click o link Investors/Locators in this site
siyokoy: '70s was the darkest era of the Phillipine govt
Siyokoy: To date,, as I was saying, dont bribe anyone, If somebody try or sending some "signals" that you need to "put money under the table".. stop and get her name.. and try to get everybodies attention.. or report this individual to aut
Siyokoy: to authorities.. its a different situation now compared to the '70s,, the media are now approachable than ever
Siyokoy: they can be your valuable ally
Siyokoy: somebody told you thats is worst today than the '70s? Thats because more anomalies are being exposed today than before
Siyokoy: thanks to the media.. not like before that every radio stations, newspaper, publishing commpanies are owned indirectly or directly by the dictator that you know who.
Siyokoy: Thanks to the internet gods too.. you can expose them here too
RamonAbello: medyo busy ako I have to help "someone" to stand with this "crisis" apektado lahat, "HI" to every1!
katutubo: hello po din sa lahat...
Badong: Tumahimik yata ang barangay ah.. nag inglis lang si siyokoy eh tumahimik na kayo.. naubusan na yata ng makabuluhang usapan ah
siyokoy: honga Badong,, napalaban ako ke sailorjohn eh.. naubos na yung pondo kong inlis... pahiram ng konti sa yo preng Badong
Badong: di pwede .. reserba ko na lang ito.. diyan ke Mon Abello ka manghiram
RamonAbello: Ano ang next topic natin? How about Sen.Trillanes, rebels and group niya? Para sa akin bigyan sila ng pagkakataon mapatunayan kung gaano sila makabayan talaga.
RamonAbello: pero alam nyo pag nakikita ko ang kabataan na my work, kumikita ng pera, parang WOW kahit "kabataan" na lang okey na sa atin?
RamonAbello: Ola mi amigo e amiga, spanish na ako ngayon,
RamonAbello: SBMA is growing, ingatan nyo iyan pra sa "Gaponians" iyan. Syokoy laglag panga ko sa English mo, katutubo, kano, badong, Sec. Syokoy! wla zzzz kau lahat?
jan: open na ba sctex?
Badong: workers first and convinced them that this is really needed
Badong: the Mayor said this is for "peace and order" .. I think that's bull...., Why? dont they have enough police force? What exactly does he mean of "peace and order ' pusposes? will that annual fee goes to PNP? I dont think so.. Will that a
Badong: use to pay barangay tanod? I dont think so.. well I think Subic workers and locals should look into this.. guys lets be vigilant ... mukhang marami pang ipagpapaliwanag si Mayor
Badong: My advise to the Mayor of Subic... be transparent.. all transactions...contracts.... Municipal Ordinance etc.. should be supported by facts and the public has the right to know
Badong: public hearing is important.. wag naman sanang moro-moro.. na yung padadaluhin niyo eh mga alipores niyo lang
Badong: pag may nagrereklamo tungkol sa panukala niyo.. ibig sabihin hindi plantsado bago ito inaprubahan... hindi nakunsulta ang lahat ng sektor.. kulang sa plano at mga datos.. tapos magalit ka pag sinilip ito..
Badong: Mayor.. marami na bumabatikos sa iyo.. I think its about time to clean up your act..
Katutubo: Susmio!! yun na lang mga substandard na ginamit sa sitio agusuhin eh galing lahat yan kay meyor gungung este khonghun.. tapos yun 300 pesos na aawasin pa sa mga kawawang worker ng hanjin for peace and order ? bakit nasa loob ba ng muntilupa prison?
Katutubo: yan hanjin ?
Katutubo: alam mo yan style na yan style eskwela lang yan ginagawa ika nga miscellaneous fee kuno pero sa bulsa nila pupunta yan ..katagal ko na sa Subic ala akong nakitang pag asenso dyan noh !!
Katutubo: eh yun tax na ibinabayad ng hanjin sa municipal ng subic eh napakalaki na nyan .. tapos pati mga worker eh kukuhanan pa !!! aba maawa na kayo sa mga yan.. lalo at mahal na ang bilihin ngayon ... meyor ng subic hindi po banko ang mga manggagawa
Badong: well.. palagay ko di palalgpasin ni mr. Lacbain yan
Badong: Suportahan na lang nyo si mr Lacbain na ungkatin lahat yan
Katutubo: peace and order kamo meyor gungung este khunghon ..bat ngayon mo lang naisip yan.. ibig mo bang sabihin eh 24 hours na magpapatrulya ang mga baranggay tanod mo o kapulisan para sa peace and order..? eh paano mangyayari magulo yan eh ang mga tao
Katutubo: sa hanjin eh 8 hours sa loob ng shipyard ..di na nila makuhang mag good time yan sa kapaguran .. mas gugustuhin pa nila ang matulog kesa tumambay pa
Badong: o kaya mag organisa kayo ng isang Cocerned Citizen's group na sisilip sa lahat ng gawain ni meyo kunghun,, at ipasa lahat ang impormasyon sa media
Badong: that I think is the best move here... expose niyo lahat ang anomalya at iparating sa national media.. wag lang sa lokal na dyarita o lokal na radio station
Badong: i mean diyarista
Katutubo: isipin mo na lang ang ipinunta ng mga worker sa hanjin eh hanapbuhay at hindi gulo o away.. meyor gunggung este khunghon.. ikaw ang nagpapasama ng imahe ng mga mababait na tao sa Subic... sus kakahiya kang meyor ka..idinadamay mo ang mga mamayan .
Katutubo: "mamamayan ng subic"
Badong: but dont forget to get all the facts.. wag lang yung hakahaka.. solid evidence ika nga
Badong: wala kayong magagawa kahit murahin niyo yan.. makapal na talaga mikha ng isang kurap na opisyal.. di na nahihiya yan kaya aksyon ang kailangan
RamonAbello: alm nyo sa "5" ng criminal justice "2" lng ang punta "community or correction". meaning "misdeamenor" lng ang kaso so syang lng ang "pera" sa imbestigtion. 4good ng community 4sure ako mura na namn ak
RamonAbello: waste of time "misdemeanor" multa lang "no" jail time. "sayang pera natin db" pogi points lng yan.!
RamonAbello: research "criminal justice system" okey mga brod..syokoy, katutubo, badong, kano atb miss u all!
Siyokoy: Alam mo mr Abello, wala kaming naiintindihan sa mga pinagsasabi mo... puro ka research.. bakit di ikaw ang magresearch para madagdagan naman ang laman ng utak mo hahahah
Siyokoy: Ayaw ko na sanang patulan ka pero nabibitin ang magandang usapan dito eh..
RamonAbello: wala talga ako makita case na criminal "environment law" wla rin syokoy, 10k php! meron bka my proposal ka
RamonAbello: u will not understand anything unless magresearch ka muna bago ka magsalita.
RamonAbello: ska "local" ang dapat magsampa ng case. No criminal intention "misdemeanor" ang labas. magbasa ka ng syokoy lasing kna nman ba?
RamonAbello: u know trial by media? pagdating sa RTC pag nanalo yan appeal ulit, e kung talo! sayang pera
Siyokoy: Tungkol saan ba yang sinasabi mo? Anong kaso? Kaninong kaso? sino kakasuhan? Pakidetalye mo nga.. mahina ang pik ap ko ngayon eh
RamonAbello: khit pagsamahin mo ang lahat ng "environmental law" 2M lng multa unless, "ancestral law" 130M yun.
Siyokoy: Paano kami makakapag react niyan eh kulang ang detalye
RamonAbello: Syokoy, SBMA ang mention ko, wla lasing kna ulit, zzzz na ako! love u na lng
Siyokoy: bakit di ka kumunsukta sa isang abugado.. abugado ka ba? kung hindi eh di mo nga makikita ang hinahanap mo
Siyokoy: Tumakbo na.. hoy bumalik ka dito at ipaliwanag mo sa akin ng mahusay yan..
sailorjohn: I am happy to see the continued investment in the old Subic Naval bases. But was it so surprising to many that there is so much "under the table" payoffs? This has been going on for WHO knows how long. I had to do it when I got married 3
sailorjohn: to speed up the process when I got married. This goes on daily in EVERY aspect of living in the Philippines or doing business in the PI. NO ONE will ever stop it and those that want to invest in PI need to understand that. Same goes
sailorjohn: for those that desire to make the move and retire in PI. NOTHING gets done unless YOU pay for it. SAD SAD SAD. The PEOPLE need to put a stop to this practice, the Gov't will NEVER stop it has they ALL have their hands in the pot.
sailorjohn: coorection. married 33 yrs ago.
sailorjohn: I am wondering if anyone can tell me here how many Ret. Americans are working on the old bases? How hard is it to find work there?
Siyokoy: sailorjohn why dont you applu dirext to aan american company who invested in SBMA, they might help you get hired.. as the stats of retirees working in sbma? SBMA doesnt keep stats.. i dont know why. And dont ask them if they will hire you.. they wont
Siyokoy: but you can get a list of investors.. check wich one is american investors/company and apply directly to them
Siyokoy: I assure you american managers doesnt discriminate older applicants
Siyokoy: and i am sorry to hear about your experience here when youre trying to speed up the paper push.. you dont have to pay or bribe them.. its only being tolerated because you allow them to.
Siyokoy: I advise everyone to bring a small digital recorder that you can put inside your shirt pocket when negotiating with govt employees.. this way you can get the details of transaction and evidence in case they ask for money in return for services
Siyokoy: This is a small digital voice recorder a little bit bigger than a cellphone and it will came in handy when this kind of situation arises, it can record up to 72 hrs..
RamonAbello: 1000 hectares lang ang pwedeng pag-aari ng dayuhan! syokoy pinabilib mo n naman ako sa english m! Sec. kn lng nmin? wat do uthink? galing mo!! takbo na ulit ako.
RamonAbello: point k! "1k hectares" na nga lng my "kotong" pa!.bigyan nman ng law protection nman natin ang investors, pwede po ba mga brods dont harrass them!
RamonAbello: tanong nga sa akin "pulis, abogado or addict b ako? ans k "NO"ako po ay isang mahirap n mamamayan na marunong magbasa at umintindi ng kahirapan
RamonAbello: hubog po ako ng "matitinong tao" sa lipunan. danas ko ang maging mahirap kya alam ko yan! teka emote na "HI" everyone! Syokoy miss u n!
sailorjohn: Siyokoy Do you work in SBMA ? I will see if I can find any AMerican companies that have business in Subic. FedEx is departing soon and that is the only one I am aware of. My concerns with under the table situations was in 1976.
sailorjohn: It is worse now from what I have been told. Sad. I'll be making the move to PI in a few years, sooner if the market to sell my home gets better.
siyokoy: Im not connecyed with SBMA in any way. SBMA is highly politicized entity and if you dont have these connections you'll unlikely to get noticed her
siyokoy: connected* , here*.
siyokoy: Chekc the links that say Investors?locators in this site and there's a lot of american companies like Cargill, Delta, to name a few
siyokoy: click o link Investors/Locators in this site
siyokoy: '70s was the darkest era of the Phillipine govt
Siyokoy: To date,, as I was saying, dont bribe anyone, If somebody try or sending some "signals" that you need to "put money under the table".. stop and get her name.. and try to get everybodies attention.. or report this individual to aut
Siyokoy: to authorities.. its a different situation now compared to the '70s,, the media are now approachable than ever
Siyokoy: they can be your valuable ally
Siyokoy: somebody told you thats is worst today than the '70s? Thats because more anomalies are being exposed today than before
Siyokoy: thanks to the media.. not like before that every radio stations, newspaper, publishing commpanies are owned indirectly or directly by the dictator that you know who.
Siyokoy: Thanks to the internet gods too.. you can expose them here too
RamonAbello: medyo busy ako I have to help "someone" to stand with this "crisis" apektado lahat, "HI" to every1!
katutubo: hello po din sa lahat...
Badong: Tumahimik yata ang barangay ah.. nag inglis lang si siyokoy eh tumahimik na kayo.. naubusan na yata ng makabuluhang usapan ah
siyokoy: honga Badong,, napalaban ako ke sailorjohn eh.. naubos na yung pondo kong inlis... pahiram ng konti sa yo preng Badong
Badong: di pwede .. reserba ko na lang ito.. diyan ke Mon Abello ka manghiram
RamonAbello: Ano ang next topic natin? How about Sen.Trillanes, rebels and group niya? Para sa akin bigyan sila ng pagkakataon mapatunayan kung gaano sila makabayan talaga.
RamonAbello: pero alam nyo pag nakikita ko ang kabataan na my work, kumikita ng pera, parang WOW kahit "kabataan" na lang okey na sa atin?
RamonAbello: Ola mi amigo e amiga, spanish na ako ngayon,
RamonAbello: SBMA is growing, ingatan nyo iyan pra sa "Gaponians" iyan. Syokoy laglag panga ko sa English mo, katutubo, kano, badong, Sec. Syokoy! wla zzzz kau lahat?
jan: open na ba sctex?
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